WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



I.want.that.one 8:04 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
6th place is guaranteed european football next season.


Eot

ironsofcanada 7:11 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
joyo 7:08 Wed May 11

You okay with the fact that if we win we are in at this point?

joyo 7:08 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Mr T can you get the rest of the A team to help sort this out!!!!

ironsofcanada 7:05 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Mr T. 6:53 Wed May 11

Unfortunately, it does not explicitly cover what would happen if only Liverpool won but if a European Cup winner finishes in an EL place then the nation loses a EL place (in exchange for the additional Cl place up to 5.) But only then.

Mr T. 6:53 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
All you need to know.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/150416-european-qualifying-places-explained.html

ironsofcanada 6:46 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
cosmo smallpiece 6:43 Wed May 11

I think he just replaced Bournemouth with Palace.

cosmo smallpiece 6:43 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Keep dreaming 4:57 Wed May 11

What the fuck are you talking about? None of that made any sense.

ironsofcanada 6:39 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
If two teams from a 4 CL, 3 EL nation (like England) won both the CL and EL and both did not finish in the CL or EL places there would actually be nine from that nation.

ironsofcanada 6:36 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
joyo 6:26 Wed May 11

Show me where it says there can be a maximum of seven.

From the regs. not newspaper because they get things wrong all the time.

If you don't fulfil the condition of the "IF" in the rule, the rule does not apply.

And here in a different situation explicitly says there could be eight.


b. If the association is entitled to four places in the competition [CL] and only one titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic championship, the lowest-placed of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into
the UEFA Europa League group stage and the access list will be rebalanced accordingly).

In this case, the association of the titleholders is entitled to one
additional place (total of five) in the UEFA Champions League,but the number of places to which it is entitled in the UEFA Europa League does not change [ie In England = 3; 5 +3 =8 ]

I will give you context on that if you really want to know.

joyo 6:29 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Where's croe/KIA when you need him?

joyo 6:26 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Only 7 places allowed in Europe, 4 CL 3europa, if Liverpool win europa 5CL 2 europa,
So if palace win cup and Liverpool europa 5th and palace only go into europa, doesn't matter where Liverpool finish in league

ironsofcanada 6:20 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
joyo 5:46 Wed May 11

If we win, Liverpool can not be 5th. Which is the only way them winning would take away a place at this point. (The spots would be 5th, 6th and Palace in your scenario)

Remember for it to be "taken away" they have to have already qualified via the league.

"If the UEFA Europa League titleholder qualifies for the UEFA
Europa League through one of its domestic competitions, the number of places to which its association is entitled in the UEFA Europa League is decreased by one."

joyo 5:46 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Canada we could win and still be 6th,and if palace win cup and Liverpool europa we ain't in Europe next season.FACT

ironsofcanada 5:35 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
We need to win and then Palace can win all they want. Pardew can be annoying but compared to Van Gaal, he pales.

(Trouble is, he would probably be gone and Mouriho would be no better there and they probably would play better.)

Spandex Sidney 5:07 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
As great it is to have a positive GD it's a shame it isn't more. Aren't we tied with Southampton on GD? So if they win and we draw they knock us out of Europa on GD.

That would be gutting actually.

boleyn8420 5:02 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Sunday's results
Stoke City 0 West Ham United 8
Swansea 8 Man City 0
Man Utd 1 Bournemouth 2

West Ham 4th. Easy.

Keep dreaming 4:57 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
If we win
- 5th if Manu drop points against CP
- 6th if Manu wins

If we draw or lose
-5th if Manu loses with more than 3 goals and Soton and pool lose.
-6th, 7th or 8th depending on soton and pool

dicksie3 4:53 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Just win the arsewiping game and then we'll finish at least 6th which will be enough.

VirginiaHam 4:46 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
It was pretty obvious what worked last night versus what didn't work against Swansea.

Sakho in, Moses out. Moses fucked us badly on Saturday.

Texas Iron 4:37 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
Win the game first...

Work it out after...

gph 4:23 Wed May 11
Re: So what do we need at Stoke now? For Europa League?
I remember us wanting Chelsea to beat Liverpool before... almost exactly 30 years ago

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